<div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><br></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, Jan 20, 2020 at 2:56 PM Chris Johns <<a href="mailto:chrisj@rtems.org">chrisj@rtems.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">On 21/1/20 4:15 am, Gedare Bloom wrote:<br>
> Maybe just a hierarchical picture could be provided.<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>I'd be thrilled to hear we have enough organizational structure to need a figure. :)</div><div><br></div><div>Seriously, it couldn't hurt. We now have a number of separate repositories:</div><div>rtems, rtems-libbsd, rtems-tools, rtems-libbsd, the release tools.</div><div><br>That ignores web infrastructure, buildbot, Trac, etc.</div><div><br></div><div>It can't do anything but help to get our hands around it all.</div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
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> I'd also be OK with new "projects" using a different noun, such as "effort"<br>
> <br>
> As with Chris, I would not change established language (such as for<br>
> RTEMS Tools Project). Nice Qualification is still getting off the<br>
> ground, the language around it could change.<br>
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Do we need to diverge from what we have? Is there some standards thing related<br>
to the language I do not understand?<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>I don't think there is any reason to move to sub-projects. The RTEMS Project is</div><div>just a higher level use of the term. It encompasses all individual projects, tasks,</div><div>tickets, processes, servers, etc.</div><div><br></div><div>--joel</div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
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Chris<br>
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> Gedare<br>
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> On Sun, Jan 19, 2020 at 10:29 PM Chris Johns <<a href="mailto:chrisj@rtems.org" target="_blank">chrisj@rtems.org</a>> wrote:<br>
>><br>
>> On 3/1/20 11:30 pm, Sebastian Huber wrote:<br>
>>> I work currently on the first chapters of the RTEMS Software Engineering manual.<br>
>>> I came across the term "RTEMS Qualifaction Project" and also "RTEMS<br>
>>> Documentation Project". What the "RTEMS Project" is, is more or less clear.<br>
>><br>
>> Clear to whom? Yes to you and I and it should be after all these years. To<br>
>> someone new it may not be as clear at all.<br>
>><br>
>>> It<br>
>>> is the community, infrastructure, and the free and open RTEMS itself. But, do we<br>
>>> really have to emphasize that there are in addition an "RTEMS Qualifaction<br>
>>> Project" and an "RTEMS Documentation Project"?<br>
>><br>
>> I am fine with project, it is in common use. Webster defines it as "To form a<br>
>> project; to scheme." and this seems to fit how we are using it.<br>
>><br>
>>> For me these are merely<br>
>>> activities and components inside the RTEMS Project. What would be the mission<br>
>>> statement of the projects?<br>
>><br>
>> These things are not precise. KDE refers to itself as a community and encourages<br>
>> new users to start projects, Fedora is a project and talks about roles users can<br>
>> take.<br>
>><br>
>>> What about overlaps?<br>
>><br>
>> There is overlap.<br>
>><br>
>>> There is currently an RTEMS pre-qualification activity according to ECSS<br>
>>> standards ongoing. So, a general term for this activity is useful. I am not sure<br>
>>> if we should name this "RTEMS Qualification Project". I would name it<br>
>>> "pre-qualification activity in the RTEMS Project" and short "pre-qualification<br>
>>> activity".<br>
>><br>
>> I am not in favor of this. The RTEMS Tools Project is in lots of places, too<br>
>> many to change.<br>
>><br>
>> The splitting up of these activities into projects helps us attract new users<br>
>> who may think RTEMS is too complex and not accessible for them. Maybe focusing<br>
>> on a smaller activity or project may be a way to get started.<br>
>><br>
>> Chris<br>
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