Git Cleanup and Unfreezing

Ralf Corsepius ralf.corsepius at
Tue Aug 7 00:55:59 UTC 2012

On 08/07/2012 02:17 AM, Chris Johns wrote:
> On 7/08/12 4:42 AM, Ralf Corsepius wrote:
>> On 08/06/2012 07:30 PM, Joel Sherrill wrote:
>>> On 08/06/2012 12:16 PM, Ralf Corsepius wrote:
>>>> On 08/06/2012 07:07 PM, Thomas Doerfler wrote:
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>> Am 06.08.2012 19:00, schrieb Ralf Corsepius:
>>>>>> On 08/06/2012 06:37 PM, Joel Sherrill wrote:
>>>>>>> Hi
>>>>>>> The general consensus has been to remove the generated
>>>>>>> files from the repo.
>>>>>> Whose decision? Please give the each individual's names.
>> Joel, provide the names of those who decided to revert these changes.
> Please add me to the list of those who want this removed.

Again, I want to hear the name of the individual who dicided to execute 
pull the trigger of this nuclear bomb aiming at me.

His step was premature and inexcusable rude.

> I have tested the changes you have added and posted the results and 
> there are differences on MacOS to the committed source.
URL to the archive, please ... I did not see this.

> I will extend this discussion to Windows testing of this change. I 
> cannot get any results on Windows because autoconf cannot be built 
> [1]. You pushed us to this version and did not complete a full range 
> of testing before doing so.
Right, because rtems4.11 is the HEAD ... if there are issues with your 
setup, post them upstream of the tool in question.

> Being able build the tools and RTEMS does not make them suitable for 
> releasing. 
Correct. RTEMS is not suiteable for releasing, ... not for the reasons 
you mention, but for other reasons.
> We need real test results. I suspect your cross-compiled mingw 
> versions are wrong. You cannot cross compile autoconf because it is 
> broken because it embeds the paths of the build host in to its various 
> scripts plus it checks the build hosts tools and not target's tools.
How comes others are able to use them and only you are complaining?

>>>>> I have clearly voted to revert the commits in question,
>>>> ... and I replied to you, trying to explain that all of your 
>>>> remarks do
>>>> not apply.
>>> So any discussion was after the fact? With no time for thoughtful
>>> analysis? This decision should have had a long list of questions
>>> and answers and plenty of time to answer them.
>> Well, I am not commenting one details of patches addressing domains, I
>> do not understand, but accept them as "the maintainer will know what he
>> is doing". Now you are so bold to be wanting force me to discuss patches
>> with the "clueless comments" from the mob"?
> Please take a moment and collect your thought before commenting. If 
> you are the only person who can make changes in the build system the 
> project has a serious problem.
You are twisting my words - That's not what I said.

> Personally I do not accept we are because I for one do know the build 
> system and all its details so yes I can comment on your changes. I 
> also know all the bugs and issues that exist in it and I choose not to 
> comment on them because it is simpler to work around them than deal 
> with you.
Pardon, but the last posting of yours, I replied to speaks a very 
different language.

You had asked if these files are supposed to be independent - Yes, they 
are, because they are _generated SOURCES_

Again: _Generated SOURCES_.

>>> BEFORE it was committed.
>> See above.
> See the Windows issues and the lack of testing. Sorry but the 
> arrogance of your comments is disturbing and your lack of testing and 
> documentation is obvious to all involved in this project.
Sorry, but the selfishnes of your comments and disturbing and your lack 
of interest in collabortion is obvious to all involved in this project.

>>>>> since the
>>>>> rational behind adding the generated files to GIT is questionable 
>>>>> to me
>>>>> and needs discussion (which did not yet occur).
>>>> ... I did not reply to everybody, because I am currently on holyday 
>>>> and
>>>> currently only infrequently read email and also do not see much 
>>>> sense in
>>>> repeating myself in a fruitless shitsstorm initiated by people who do
>>>> not want to understand.
>>> IMO That reflects even worse on your judgement in committing this.
>> This change was not any different from hundreds of similar patches I had
>> commited over the 15 years+, I had contributed to RTEMS.
>>> Even if we had discussed and agreed on this, the timing was horrible.
>>> You were unavailable to address any problems accidentally caused.
>> Which? I have no idea what you are talking about.
> The repo is blocked while we discuss this issue. No one can commit 
> because of your actions.
I did and do not block anything - I'd assume these to be Gedare and Joel.


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