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Joel Sherrill joel.sherrill at oarcorp.com
Fri Jun 26 00:35:30 UTC 2015



On June 25, 2015 7:33:24 PM CDT, Saurabh Gadia <gadia at usc.edu> wrote:
>@joel: It essentially means finding out the highest priority thread (or
>ceiling) of any remaining mutex held, right?
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>If you are talking this in context of nested mutex problem ---> 
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>We never go and find the highest priority thread waiting on held mutex.
>Inversely highest priority thread will recursively make changes to top
>of stack of held mutexes by the holder. We don't search.

True recursion? Or implemented with loop? 

Ok. Still an O(n) operation. Discuss locking on devel@

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>Thanks,
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>Saurabh Gadia
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>On Thu, Jun 25, 2015 at 5:27 PM, Joel Sherrill
><joel.sherrill at oarcorp.com> wrote:
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>On June 25, 2015 7:23:06 PM CDT, Cyrille Artho
><cyrille.artho at gmail.com> wrote:
>>Hi Gedare and all,
>>Good news:
>>In this morning's discussion, we fixed some remaining issues in the
>>model and now got results.
>>
>>The current model shows a case of priority inversion with a simple
>>priority reset mechanism and the absence of that problem with the
>>proposed strategy.
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>>There is only one flaw: We had to use a global lock in the model
>>(essentially making the entire "lock" and "unlock" operations atomic),
>>because so far we couldn't find a way to secure lock the operations on
>>a lower level. The model uses a list of locks held (by a thread) and a
>>list of threads waiting on a lock (in the lock data structure), so
>>these aspects are essentially cross-cutting and very hard to get right
>>without a global lock.
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>>The RTEMS code uses different macros inside these operations (_Seize,
>>_Surrender), which do not seem to use a global lock (but I may have
>>missed something). It is possible that a data race occurs for a
>>complex lock update strategy, if we don't use a global lock.
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>>Saurabh will clean up the model and provide documentation with
>details.
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>>In the meantime, can you maybe answer these questions for us:
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>>(1) Did you have any issues with race conditions in the current RTEMS
>>code (especially recent changes)?
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>We haven't observed any but that doesn't mean there aren't any
>undiscovered.
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>>(2) Is a fix using a global lock acceptable? Correctness-wise it's the
>>safest thing, but of course performance-wise it's a bottleneck.
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>The locking strategy needs to be discussed. On a uniprocessor system,
>these issues tend to be minor and cause delays. On smp systems, they
>become more complex and performance problems.
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>It essentially means finding out the highest priority thread (or
>ceiling) of any remaining mutex held, right?
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>Bring this up on devel@
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>--joel

--joel



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