[GSoC - x86_64] Interrupt manager and and port-specific glue - was Re: [GSoC - x86_64 - automake] Limit CFLAGS to specific source for librtemsbsp.a

Amaan Cheval amaan.cheval at gmail.com
Wed Aug 1 13:15:06 UTC 2018


That's definitely very illuminating, thank you so much for all the details!

A few more questions that have arisen for me. Feel free to skip over
them (I'll likely figure them out given enough time, so I'm only
asking in case any of them are obvious to anyone):

- The i386 doesn't use CPU_Interrupt_frame at all. It seems like it
stores some of the data onto the stack?

- There used to be defines in cpu.h regarding hardware/software based
interrupt stacks, and how they'd be setup, which were made
superfluous[1] - I'm not quite sure how these are meant to work - I
see references to "stack high" and "stack low" and I'm not quite sure
what the code is referencing when using those.

- c/src/lib/libbsp/no_cpu/no_bsp/Makefile.am doesn't include
irq-sources.am, by the way (this is part of why I used to think a lot
of what your email mentioned was unnecessary, until you...ahem,
pre-empted that line of thought and helped clarify it :P). Should I
add a ticket to update the no_bsp code to be more in line with current
use?

- My understanding of _ISR_Handler is that it'll be the handler for
_all_ interrupt vectors by default - it'll then dispatch interrupts to
user-handlers (or internal handlers, for the timer, for eg.). Is that
right? (I don't quite understand its interaction with the RTEMS
interrupt manager yet, but irq-generic's "bsp_interrupt_handler_table"
seems to be the RTEMS equivalent to the processor-specific vector
table, and "bsp_interrupt_handler_dispatch" seems to call the actual
handler within that table as appropriate. Accurate? (I just haven't
found how that table actually gets its handlers setup besides during
initialization, since rtems_interrupt_catch just calls
_CPU_install_vector, which updates the processor vector table, not the
RTEMS interrupt manager vector table.)

- My understanding of the interaction between RTEMS' interrupt manager
(i.e. support for nested interrupts and thread dispatch once an
interrupt ends) and the BSP's processor-specific interrupt manager
(code to use the APIC and IDT in my case) is that they're tied
together through the use of irq-generic.c's "bsp_interrupt_initialize"
- is that right? (m68k never seems to call it, though, so perhaps
not?)

Sorry about the rambling! To reiterate, I'll likely figure it out
given enough time, so if the answers aren't at the top of your head, I
can figure it out without wasting your time :)

[1] https://devel.rtems.org/ticket/3459#comment:11

On Wed, Aug 1, 2018 at 3:18 AM, Joel Sherrill <joel at rtems.org> wrote:
>
>
> On Tue, Jul 31, 2018 at 3:05 PM, Amaan Cheval <amaan.cheval at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>>
>> Hm, I'm not sure what to look for in the other ports specifically, really.
>> The BSP porting documentation doesn't have a section on interrupts, so I'm
>> doing this on more of an "as it comes up" basis.
>>
>> What I've got right now (the interrupt handlers in C) are what I need for
>> calibrating the APIC timer (through the PIT) - so simply hooking IRQ0 (for
>> the timer) and IRQ7 (spurious vector), since those are needed for the timer
>> work to continue.
>>
>> What constitutes as a requirement for basic interrupt support?
>
>
> There used to be a generic porting guide. I can see that this particular
> section
> has bit rotted some but the interrupt dispatching section. Some of this
> will have evolved to support SMP and fine grained locking but the
> pseudo-code
> here will give you a push toward the right line of thinking:
>
> https://docs.rtems.org/releases/rtemsdocs-4.10.2/share/rtems/html/porting/porting00034.html
>
> The idea is that you need to ensure RTEMS knows it is inside an interrupt
> and the current locking scheme (old was dispatching, new is ...) is honored.
>
> The ARM and PowerPC (plus RISCV) are good ports to look at for how SMP
> plays into this. But the CPU supplement is thin for their interrupt
> processing.
>
>
> This is the CPU Architecture supplement section for the m68k. This is a
> relatively simple
> architecture to describe. There is also a section for the i386 which reads
> similarly.
>
> https://docs.rtems.org/branches/master/cpu-supplement/m68xxx_and_coldfire.html#interrupt-processing
>
> Personally, I find the m68k a fairly easy processor to read assembly in.
> Look at cpukit/score/cpu/m68k/cpu_asm.S and _ISR_Handler to see what
> is done there w/o SMP. On the m68k _ISR_Handler is directly put into the
> vector table. But this isn't the most similar example for you.
>
> For the i386 (better example), it is in bsps/i386/shared/irq/irq_asm.S with
> the
> same name. There _ISR_Handler is installed via the DISTINCT_INTERRUPT_ENTRY
> macros at the bottom of the file where some prologue jumps to the common
> _ISR_Handler and then the actions are similar. Usually _ISR_Handler type of
> code ends up invoking a PIC decode method in normal C without an
> interrupt attribute.
>
> Long and multi-architecture answer but maybe that makes sense. The goal
> in ticker.exe is to take a number of tick interrupts which don't schedule
> and
> then take one that does -- it schedules a preemption of the idle thread.
>
> Hope this helps.
>
> --joel
>
>
>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Aug 1, 2018, 1:29 AM Joel Sherrill <joel at rtems.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Jul 31, 2018 at 2:52 PM, Amaan Cheval <amaan.cheval at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi Chris!
>>>>
>>>> I currently have code like this in
>>>> c/src/lib/libbsp/x86_64/amd64/Makefile.am:
>>>>
>>>>     librtemsbsp_a_SOURCES +=
>>>> ../../../../../../bsps/x86_64/amd64/interrupts/handlers.c
>>>>     # XXX: Needed to use GCC "interrupt" attribute directives - can we
>>>> pass these
>>>>     # flags only for the handlers.c source file (compile to an object
>>>> file first and
>>>>     # then link with the rest for librtemsbsp.a?)
>>>>     librtemsbsp_a_CFLAGS = -mgeneral-regs-only
>>>>
>>>> The CFLAGS arg is required to allow us to use
>>>> "__attribute__((interrupt))" to setup interrupt handlers in C. (See
>>>> [1] and ctrl+f "interrupt" for more.)
>>>>
>>>> Is there a way to not force the CFLAGS for _all_ of librtemsbsp, but
>>>> to limit it only to handlers.c?
>>>>
>>>> If not, is the above code something that would be acceptable to have
>>>> upstream?
>>>>
>>>> [1]
>>>> https://gcc.gnu.org/onlinedocs/gcc/x86-Function-Attributes.html#x86-Function-Attributes
>>>
>>>
>>> Are we basically talking about the outermost layer of your interrupt
>>> dispatching?
>>>
>>>
>>> Have you looked at the basic approach taken by the other ports? They end
>>> up switching the stack pointer to a dedicated stack on the outermost
>>> interrupt
>>> and, if a context switch/dispatch is needed, arrange for the interrupted
>>> task to call _Thread_Dispatch.But tinker with its stack so some registers
>>> are saved and it looks like it made the call itself.
>>>
>>> If you can do it in C, I am ok with an attribute. I just don't think you
>>> can pull off all the stack and return to dispatch magic that way.
>>>
>>> --joel
>>>
>


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