[PATCH 0/1] [GSoC - x86_64] User documentation for BSP

Joel Sherrill joel at rtems.org
Fri Jul 13 14:02:41 UTC 2018


On Fri, Jul 13, 2018 at 8:25 AM, Gedare Bloom <gedare at rtems.org> wrote:

> Hello Amaan,
>
>
> On Fri, Jul 13, 2018 at 3:32 AM, Amaan Cheval <amaan.cheval at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > The built documentation can more easily be viewed here:
> > http://whatthedude.com/rtems/user/html/bsps/bsps-x86_64.html
> >
> > It feels a bit convoluted to me at the moment. I'd appreciate feedback
> on how
> > the documentation may be made more understandable, and on whether the
> current
> > approach even seems sustainable - specifically, using FreeBSD's
> bootloader ties
> > us into using the UFS filesystem and can slow down the
> iterative-development
> > process.
> >
> I agree. It looks like you have to build FreeBSD at least one time to
> use this? Alternatives should be again considered for iterative
> improvement.
>

Reducing what has to be built is an important goal. But an alternative is
to host a pre-built binary of what is required to boot. I did that for a
boot
floppy for the pc386. There were instructions for making one and they
worked but, in practice, just grabbing the floppy image was easier.

Note; you didn't need to use a real floppy. Telling qemu what file
was the 1.44 MB image was all that was needed. Combine that with
vfat for c: and it worked find.

So I think we need both -- RSB for building from source and a pre-built
binary.


>
> > In my opinion, this system is good _enough_ for now - we can explore
> other
> > options later if time permits, but I'd love to hear differing opinions.
> >
> > P.S. - Joel asked earlier if the QEMU that the RSB builds will suffice -
> for me,
> > it didn't because in it "SDL support is disabled" (and so are all other
> graphics
> > options). It's likely possible to install FreeBSD without graphics, it
> may not
> > be worth the effort of setting up - it's likely easier to update the
> RSB's QEMU
> > to also build graphics support.
> >
> I was going to recommend this. You can make it an option of the qemu
> configuration in RSB to enable the support needed. I suggest you talk
> to Vijay as he has some experience now with RSB, and also this will
> require Chris Johns approval.
>

Everything that wasn't needed was disabled to make it easier to build
on multiple hosts. Too many projects are Linux monoculture and
getting things built on multiple hosts can be a pain.

But I think SDL support needs to be enabled since otherwise we have
no way to test graphics at all.


>
> Relatedly, does it make sense for you to look at creating an RSB
> "recipe" for building the UEFI firmware?
>

See above. I think we need RSB recipes for everything required that
we expect to be put together by a user. And we should host binaries
along with matching sources for some pre-built versions. I don't want
this BSP to be an order of magnitude harder to get started with than
any of the others.

>
> > P.P.S. - Some of the documentation is double-spaced, but this patch
> isn't. Let me
> > know if it ought to be (the README didn't say anything of the sort, and
> it isn't
> > consistent throughout).
> >
>
> Stick to one consistent approach within your chapters. If consistency
> needs to be dealt with across chapters in a manual or across the set
> of manuals, that can be done later and simpler if each chapter is
> internally consistent.
>

How did some documentation get to be double-spaced? I thought we
had a consistent style of single space or something like 1.5. I have
never even thought of changing the line spacing and don't know how. :)

Sounds like we need to look at fixing the inconsistent places.

>
> > Amaan Cheval (1):
> >   user: Add x86_64 BSP chapter
> >
> >  user/bsps/bsps-x86_64.rst | 143 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> +++++++++++++++-
> >  1 file changed, 142 insertions(+), 1 deletion(-)
> >
> > --
> > 2.16.0.rc0
> >
>
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