[EXTERNAL] Re: Problem running RTEMS on raspberrypi3

Niteesh gsnb.gn at gmail.com
Mon Dec 16 14:09:16 UTC 2019


If possible can you write down the exact steps of how you loaded the image?
I tried running it on my RPi3 by placing the rtems kernel.img in my SD card
but it didn't work.

On Mon, Dec 16, 2019 at 7:33 PM Cudmore, Alan P. (GSFC-5820) <
alan.p.cudmore at nasa.gov> wrote:

> That’s good to know. I would like to try the Raspberry Pi Zero W and make
> sure it works like the Pi Zero without the wireless.
>
>
>
> *From: *Niteesh <gsnb.gn at gmail.com>
> *Date: *Monday, December 16, 2019 at 8:54 AM
> *To: *Alan Cudmore <alan.p.cudmore at nasa.gov>
> *Cc: *Christian Mauderer <list at c-mauderer.de>, "rtems-devel at rtems.org" <
> devel at rtems.org>
> *Subject: *Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Problem running RTEMS on raspberrypi3
>
>
>
> I looked at the source code for UART. RTEMS uses the PL011 which is by
> default connected to the bluetooth module, but this can be changed by
> adding disable-bt command to the config.txt
>
> this will configure PL011 as the primary uart. So I don't think anything
> has to be changed.
>
>
>
> On Mon, Dec 16, 2019 at 6:57 PM Cudmore, Alan P. (GSFC-5820) <
> alan.p.cudmore at nasa.gov> wrote:
>
> Has the RPI3 UART/Console been addressed in RTEMS?
>
> My understanding is that the RPI 1, Zero (without wireless) and 2 all
> share the same UART/Console driver. But the Raspberry Pi 3 and Zero W use
> that UART to talk to the Bluetooth module. The “mini” UART is then used for
> the console.
>
> So, at a minimum, I think the RPI3 needs a different console driver.
>
>
>
> https://www.raspberrypi.org/documentation/configuration/uart.md
> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.raspberrypi.org_documentation_configuration_uart.md&d=DwMFaQ&c=ApwzowJNAKKw3xye91w7BE1XMRKi2LN9kiMk5Csz9Zk&r=mW-jVVDIxBn4bZU1jogCo9FDuDuPszsoVj1mqBvCXzw&m=HjAtDcAxrxRahiF3zEE7-O2MuNEcjdC01tK5I6ybOGM&s=PiiVvSpbmmRGLGOH4BljOgj_9M4JEXJNaQAvLBgh8sQ&e=>
>
>
>
> *From: *devel <devel-bounces at rtems.org> on behalf of Niteesh <
> gsnb.gn at gmail.com>
> *Date: *Monday, December 16, 2019 at 8:02 AM
> *To: *Christian Mauderer <list at c-mauderer.de>
> *Cc: *"rtems-devel at rtems.org" <devel at rtems.org>
> *Subject: *[EXTERNAL] Re: Problem running RTEMS on raspberrypi3
>
>
>
> I got uboot running on my raspi3. But I can't figure out to load and run a
> custom kernel. Can you explain the steps or point me to some
>
> reference.
>
> On Mon, Dec 16, 2019 at 5:13 PM Niteesh <gsnb.gn at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> On Mon, Dec 16, 2019 at 2:36 AM Christian Mauderer <list at c-mauderer.de>
> wrote:
>
>
>
> On 15/12/2019 21:29, Niteesh wrote:
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Dec 16, 2019 at 12:53 AM Christian Mauderer <list at c-mauderer.de
> > <mailto:list at c-mauderer.de>> wrote:
> >
> >     On 15/12/2019 19:46, Niteesh wrote:
> >     >
> >     >
> >     > On Sun, Dec 15, 2019 at 10:15 PM Christian Mauderer
> >     <list at c-mauderer.de <mailto:list at c-mauderer.de>
> >     > <mailto:list at c-mauderer.de <mailto:list at c-mauderer.de>>> wrote:
> >     >
> >     >     Hello Niteesh,
> >     >
> >     >     On 15/12/2019 09:05, Niteesh wrote:
> >     >     > I am trying to get RTEMS examples running on the RPI3, the
> >     RPI3 is
> >     >     > similar to RPI2 so the examples built for RPI2 should
> >     technically
> >     >     run on
> >     >     > the RPi3.But they don't :(, I am really sure of what is
> causing
> >     >     the problem.
> >     >
> >     >     Note that there are at least two different versions of the
> >     RPi3 which
> >     >     use different chips. The original RPi3 which uses a BCM2837
> >     (same like
> >     >     later versions of RPi2) and the RPi3+ which uses a BCM2837B0.
> >     Broadcom
> >     >     is always quite sparse with documentation so it's not easy to
> >     tell the
> >     >     differences. Which one do you have?
> >     >
> >     > I have Rpi3 model b v1.2 which uses BCM2837 SOC, in my bare-metal
> >     > programming I used the
> >     > 2835 doc as a reference because the only major difference these
> >     two SOC
> >     > is the peripheral base address
> >     > offset. But this is arm cpu is also capable of executing in 64bit
> >     mode.
> >
> >     OK. Did you check, whether the offset is correct? In the
> raspberrypi.h
> >     in RTEMS there is the following define:
> >
> >     #if (BSP_IS_RPI2 == 1)
> >        #define RPI_PERIPHERAL_BASE      0x3F000000
> >     #else
> >        #define RPI_PERIPHERAL_BASE      0x20000000
> >     #endif
> >
> > The offsets are right.
>
> Good.
>
> >
> >     >
> >     >     > I followed the steps
> >     >     >
> >     >
> >      from
> http://alanstechnotes.blogspot.com/2013/03/running-your-first-rtems-program-on.html
> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__alanstechnotes.blogspot.com_2013_03_running-2Dyour-2Dfirst-2Drtems-2Dprogram-2Don.html&d=DwMFaQ&c=ApwzowJNAKKw3xye91w7BE1XMRKi2LN9kiMk5Csz9Zk&r=mW-jVVDIxBn4bZU1jogCo9FDuDuPszsoVj1mqBvCXzw&m=mgmnjRRtQ0UiBECza6LBUdPRMlI07FCjTRHH5qFTYRk&s=RXd0TjeCxMP_Y43iLHMAMB4sv7Tfq1pjRRVKJbqfyJg&e=>
>  (modified
> >     >     > commands to use rtems5) to build the kernel img.
> >     >
> >     >     It's a bit odd that the Bootloader doesn't use some image
> >     format like
> >     >     U-Boot but if that's the case for Raspberry, that's OK.
> >     >
> >     > Do you want me to try U-Boot, I was planning to use it for my
> >     bare-metal
> >     > stuff because copying the kernel
> >     > to SD-card was a real pain. Will it even work with RTEMS?
> >
> >     The manual that you linked uses the default Raspberry bootloader. I'm
> >     not sure whether it's an U-Boot. If you skip the bootloader entirely,
> >     your SDRAM might isn't initialized.
> >
> > The manual uses the default bootloader. I don't think we have to worry
> > about the SDRAM initialization
> > because all of that is taken care of by the GPU.
>
> Sounds OK.
>
> > When using Uboot, the
> > GPU will load the uboot image and
> > pass the control to the CPU. And then the uboot continue's it's
> execution.
> >
>
> I don't wanted to suggest to use an extra U-Boot. I was just not sure
> whether the stage 3 loader is an U-Boot. Your approach sounds fine so far.
>
> >
> >
> >     PS: You answered that further below. You are using the stage 3
> loader.
> >
> >     >
> >     >     > I did try running it on
> >     >     > Qemu but it doesn't always work, sometimes it gives
> >     weird output.
> >     >
> >     >     How did you run it on Qemu? Did you build some image for that
> too?
> >     >
> >     > qemu-system-arm -M raspi2 -m 1G -kernel hello.exe -serial mon:stdio
> >     > -nographic
> >     > *
> >     > *
> >     > *
> >     > qemu-system-aarch64: GLib: g_mapped_file_unref: assertion 'file !=
> >     NULL'
> >     > failed *I get this error
> >     > while trying to emulate raspi3.
> >
> >     That sounds like a problem with Qemu. Is there some official test
> image
> >     for rpi3 on qemu? Note that this isn't really relevant for your
> current
> >     problem. So if you don't have some manual just ignore the question.
> >
> >     >
> >     > I ran qemu along with GDB to find what was causing the wrong
> output. I
> >     > am really not sure if this is right,
> >     > I still have a lot to learn, but my assumption's using GDB are as
> >     follows.
> >     > There are 4 active thread which run the same code.
> >     >
> >     >     (gdb) info thread
> >     >       Id   Target Id                    Frame
> >     >     * 1    Thread 1.1 (CPU#0 [running]) _start () at
> >     >
> >
>   ../../../../../../../../rtems/c/src/lib/libbsp/arm/raspberrypi/../../../../../../bsps/arm/shared/start/start.S:153
> >     >       2    Thread 1.2 (CPU#1 [running]) _start () at
> >     >
> >
>   ../../../../../../../../rtems/c/src/lib/libbsp/arm/raspberrypi/../../../../../../bsps/arm/shared/start/start.S:153
> >     >       3    Thread 1.3 (CPU#2 [running]) _start () at
> >     >
> >
>   ../../../../../../../../rtems/c/src/lib/libbsp/arm/raspberrypi/../../../../../../bsps/arm/shared/start/start.S:153
> >     >       4    Thread 1.4 (CPU#3 [running]) _start () at
> >     >
> >
>   ../../../../../../../../rtems/c/src/lib/libbsp/arm/raspberrypi/../../../../../../bsps/arm/shared/start/start.S:153
> >
> >     In this case that are not threads but it's the CPU cores. GDB shows
> them
> >     as threads. Most likely it wouldn't be able to detect the RTEMS
> threads.
> >
> >     It's a bit odd that they are all pointing to start.S:153. That's the
> >     entry point for the program. It looks like not even one instruction
> has
> >     been executed yet.
> >
> > I took this output before executing the program, that the reason why not
> > even a single instruction has been
> > executed yet.
>
> OK.
>
> >
> >     >
> >     > After some time one of the thread call's the BSP reset function
> >     this is
> >     > when the program crashes, the other threads complain "*executing
> >     thread
> >     > is NULL*"
> >
> >     I would rather assume that one core tries to do the initialization
> while
> >     the others hang in a endless loop till they are needed. The one core
> >     doing the initialization work hits an exception somewhere and calls
> the
> >     exception handler which calls the bsp reset function.
> >
> >     The executing thread is NULL is a sign that it happens somewhere
> during
> >     initialization when the RTEMS threading hasn't been started yet.
> >
> >     The PC has an odd value. The linker command file tells that there is
> a
> >     RAM_MMU at 0x00100000. It only puts a bsp_translation_table there but
> >     there shouldn't be any code. So I don't know what the processor is
> doing
> >     there. You could try to set a breakpoint on the address 0x00100fc4
> and
> >     take a look at why the processor is there with a "bt" (backtrace).
> >
> > When I re-run it again, it now stops at a different address. As you said
> > that the other cores are put
> > in an endless loop, I don't think that's is happening. I single stepped
> > the instruction and later at some point checked the threads
> >
> >     (gdb) info threads
> >
> >
> >         Target Id                    Frame
> >       1    Thread 1.1 (CPU#0 [running]) arm_ccsidr_get_line_power
> >     (ccsidr=<optimized out>)
> >         at
> >
>  /home/niteesh/development/rtems/kernel/rtems/cpukit/score/cpu/arm/include/libcpu/arm-cp15.h:850
> >       2    Thread 1.2 (CPU#1 [running]) arm_cp15_cache_invalidate_level
> >     (inst_data_fl=0, level=1)
> >        at
> >
>  /home/niteesh/development/rtems/kernel/rtems/cpukit/score/cpu/arm/include/libcpu/arm-cp15.h:1162
> >      3    Thread 1.3 (CPU#2 [running]) arm_ccsidr_get_line_power
> >     (ccsidr=<optimized out>)
> >        at
> >
>  /home/niteesh/development/rtems/kernel/rtems/cpukit/score/cpu/arm/include/libcpu/arm-cp15.h:850
> >     * 4    Thread 1.4 (CPU#3 [running])
> >     arm_cp15_get_cache_size_id_for_level (level_and_inst_dat=0)
> >         at
> >
>  /home/niteesh/development/rtems/kernel/rtems/cpukit/score/cpu/arm/include/libcpu/arm-cp15.h:936
> >     (gdb)
> >
> > They all are executing different instructions at the same time.
>
> Some of the initialization is done on all cores. Some isn't. I took a
> look at the initialization and it seems that I was wrong: There is no
> wait loop. All processors are running through the initialization
> process. Some just skip parts. The part where they really start to
> differ is in bsp_start_hook_0.
>
> > I> googled about just running one thread or CPU as you said at a time and
> > used "*set scheduler-locking on" *on doing this I always get the right
> > output.
> >
> >     (gdb) info threads
> >       Id   Target Id                    Frame
> >     * 1    Thread 1.1 (CPU#0 [running]) bsp_reset ()
> >         at
> >
>  ../../../../../../../../rtems/c/src/lib/libbsp/arm/raspberrypi/../../../../../../bsps/arm/raspberrypi/start/bspreset.c:18
> >       2    Thread 1.2 (CPU#1 [running]) _start ()
> >         at
> >
>  ../../../../../../../../rtems/c/src/lib/libbsp/arm/raspberrypi/../../../../../../bsps/arm/shared/start/start.S:153
> >       3    Thread 1.3 (CPU#2 [running]) _start ()
> >         at
> >
>  ../../../../../../../../rtems/c/src/lib/libbsp/arm/raspberrypi/../../../../../../bsps/arm/shared/start/start.S:153
> >       4    Thread 1.4 (CPU#3 [running]) _start ()
> >         at
> >
>  ../../../../../../../../rtems/c/src/lib/libbsp/arm/raspberrypi/../../../../../../bsps/arm/shared/start/start.S:153
> >     (gdb)
> >
> > The above command allow's only a single thread to run.
>
> Maybe there is a timing difference between the simulator and the real
> hardware. I'm not sure how well tested the SMP code is on the Raspberry.
> There can be a hidden bug.
>
> Just a guess: If there is a bug it could be possible that you hit it
> with your rpi3 too. Maybe it would be good to try a single core version
> of the BSP. I assume you have configured with "--enable-smp"? Can you
> try to build without it?
>
> I built 2 versions with SMP enabled and disabled, the one we are talking
> about is the SMP disabled version, I ran
>
> the example with SMP enabled, still, the error's are similar, I only
> difference is, in the disabled one, there are only 4 or less panic's
>
> (maybe corresponding to 4 cpu's) but the other one has a higher number of
> panics.
>
>
>
> > Won't it be a good idea to make a separate BSP for rpi3?
>
> As soon as it is necessary: Sure. But from what you told me it seems
> that the hardware is very similar so that we won't hit this point soon.
> Or do you already see differences that would make it necessary.
>
> I haven't had a look at the details but it could also be possible to
> unify the BSPs and entirely remove the rpi2 variant if the information
> from the flattened device tree are used.
>
> Can you explain how FDT work in RTEMS. Can you mention some BSP's which
> use FDT so I can use them as a reference to learn.
>
> I previously took a look at the beagle FDT project (#3784), you mentioned
> about hardcoded values and initialization functions, can
>
> you explain more about what exactly do the initialization functions do? Do
> they assign a function to a particular pin, like in raspi
>
> the pins are multiplexed for various functions, so do the initialization
> functions assign those pins to a particular function?
>
>
>
> And also please explain how does the initialization of the system happen
> from the DT file.
>
> >
> >     >     *** FATAL ***
> >     >     fatal source: 9 (RTEMS_FATAL_SOURCE_EXCEPTION)
> >     >
> >     >     R0   = 0x400005e6 R8  = 0x00000000
> >     >     R1   = 0x00000001 R9  = 0x00000000
> >     >     R2   = 0xbffffa1a R10 = 0x00000000
> >     >     R3   = 0x00000000 R11 = 0x00000000
> >     >     R4   = 0x002001db R12 = 0x00000000
> >     >     R5   = 0x00000000 SP  = 0x00300bd0
> >     >     R6   = 0x00000000 LR  = 0x00100fc4
> >     >     R7   = 0x00000000 PC  = 0x00100fc4
> >     >     CPSR = 0x000001d3 VEC = 0x00000002
> >     >     FPEXC = 0x40000000
> >     >     FPSCR = 0x00000000
> >     >     D00 = 0x0000000000000000
> >     >     D01 = 0x0000000000000000
> >     >     D02 = 0x0000000000000000
> >     >     D03 = 0x0000000000000000
> >     >     D04 = 0x0000000000000000
> >     >     D05 = 0x0000000000000000
> >     >     D06 = 0x0000000000000000
> >     >     D07 = 0x0000000000000000
> >     >     D08 = 0x0000000000000000
> >     >     D09 = 0x0000000000000000
> >     >     D10 = 0x0000000000000000
> >     >     D11 = 0x0000000000000000
> >     >     D12 = 0x0000000000000000
> >     >     D13 = 0x0000000000000000
> >     >     D14 = 0x0000000000000000
> >     >     D15 = 0x0000000000000000
> >     >     D16 = 0x0000000000000000
> >     >     D17 = 0x0000000000000010
> >     >     D18 = 0x0000000000000000
> >     >     D19 = 0x0000000000000000
> >     >     D20 = 0x0000000000000000
> >     >     D21 = 0x0000000000000000
> >     >     D22 = 0x0000000000000000
> >     >     D23 = 0x0000000000000000
> >     >     D24 = 0x0000000000000000
> >     >     D25 = 0x0000000000000000
> >     >     D26 = 0x0000000000000000
> >     >     D27 = 0x0000000000000000
> >     >     D28 = 0x0000000000000000
> >     >     D29 = 0x0000000000000000
> >     >     D30 = 0x0000000000000000
> >     >     D31 = 0x0000000000000000
> >     >     RTEMS version:
> >     5.0.0.c6d8589bb00a9d2a5a094c68c90290df1dc44807-modified
> >     >     RTEMS tools: 7.5.0 20191114 (RTEMS 5, RSB
> >     >     83fa79314dd87c0a8c78fd642b2cea3138be8dd6, Newlib 3e24fbf6f)
> >     >     executing thread is NULL
> >     >
> >     >     > The steps that I followed are:
> >     >     > 1. Created a bootable SD card using raspbian.
> >     >     > 2. Replaced the kernel.img file with RTEMS kernel.img file
> and
> >     >     modified
> >     >     > the config.txt to boot from the RTEMs kernel (boots in
> >     aarch32 bit
> >     >     mode).
> >     >     > I am still not able to wrap my head around the RPI bsp build
> >     process.
> >     >     > This is what I understood as of now, correct me if I am
> wrong.
> >     >     > Both RPi and Rpi2 are based on the same BSP, they just
> >     differ in the
> >     >     > peripheral offsets, hardcoded checks are used to select the
> >     right
> >     >     offset
> >     >     > at the time of compiling
> >     >
> >     >     >From what I know of the Raspberry BSPs that is correct.
> >     >
> >     >     > and the linkercmd file is responsible for
> >     >     > building the final executable file.
> >     >
> >     >     The linkercmd file is - like for all programs - responsible
> >     where the
> >     >     memory regions are that can be used for code or data. So you
> >     could more
> >     >     or less explain it like you did.
> >     >
> >     >     > I looked at the linker script, it seem's to have the start
> >     section at
> >     >     > address 0x200000, I also loaded it in GDB and the start
> >     address is
> >     >     > *Start address 0x200080,*
> >     >
> >     >     I agree with that. The different start in GDB is most likely
> >     because
> >     >     there is a vector table in front (at least if the Broadcom
> chip is
> >     >     similar to a lot of other processors that I have encountered).
> >     >
> >     >     Does that mean that you have a debugger connected to the
> >     raspberry? Can
> >     >     you load code with it? If yes: Is the bootloader executed
> >     before you
> >     >     load your code? Otherwise the SDRAM might isn't initialized
> yet.
> >     >
> >     > I don't have a debugger connected to it. I from what I have SDRAM
> is
> >     > initialized by the 3 stage bootloader(start.elf).
> >
> >     That should be OK and it answers my question above.
> >
> >     >
> >     >     > I did some bare metal programming on RPI3
> >     >     > there I had the start section at address 0x8000 Is this
> causing
> >     >     the problem?
> >     >
> >     >     I assume that you used some internal RAM when you did bare
> metal
> >     >     programming. You maybe even skipped one or two bootloader
> >     stages. From a
> >     >     quick look Raspberry has a quite complex boot process with at
> >     least
> >     >     three bootloaders:
> >     http://lions-wing.net/maker/raspberry-1/boot.html
> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__lions-2Dwing.net_maker_raspberry-2D1_boot.html&d=DwMFaQ&c=ApwzowJNAKKw3xye91w7BE1XMRKi2LN9kiMk5Csz9Zk&r=mW-jVVDIxBn4bZU1jogCo9FDuDuPszsoVj1mqBvCXzw&m=mgmnjRRtQ0UiBECza6LBUdPRMlI07FCjTRHH5qFTYRk&s=RKIi8InlPNqYxRJyxDcr_gruhLWweSnjRhwcrAxKYFM&e=>
> >     >
> >     > I don't think I have skipped any stages. The boot process is
> >     exactly the
> >     > same as how it boot's a normal raspbian or any other linux
> >     > distro, I just to replace the linux kernel with my own kernel.
> >
> >     Sounds reasonable. Does the bootloader print anything where it puts
> the
> >     kernel image? Maybe the start address changed during the raspberry
> >     versions.
> >
> > the default kernel load address is 0x8000 in 32bit mode and 0x80000 in
> > 64bit mode I have no idea about the raspberry 1,
> > but the load address is same for rpi2 and 3.
>
> That sounds odd. Do you have a memory map somewhere? From the linker
> command file it seems quite clear that RTEMS is build for a 0x200000.
>
> >
> >     >
> >     >
> >     >     > I have no idea on how to debug this, any suggestion on how
> >     to start
> >     >     > would be really helpfull.
> >     >     >
> >     >
> >
>
>
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