1JDMEVA
Joel Sherrill
joel.sherrill at OARcorp.com
Mon Sep 17 16:09:27 UTC 2001
rwas wrote:
>
> I think it'd be nice. I've checked with a number of x86 pc104 vendors
> most had never even heard of rtems. I found very little interest in
> rtems upon describing it to them.
Our experience is that board vendors need to hear about this from
users. There are a handful of board vendors with RTEMS support
for some of their boards. RadStone includes RTEMS in its literature
and Ramix has RTEMS BSPs for some of their boards. I do not know
about their literature though.
> I feel the entire RTEMs comunity can do a great deal towards educating
> and developing interest in rtems by board vendors and manufacturers.
And this is the correct solution. Pester them. Then you are not
totally on the hook for the BSP.
I know that a few people have asked us about Synergy. Bug them.
Get them to do it.
> >From my experience I know that the Air Force Research Lab spends a
> great
> deal of money on VME hardware as well as VxWorks licenses. It'd be nice
> to have that money spill over into the RTEMS community.
>
> The main issue in adopting rtems for any system development project
> is run-up time to actually use a product or piece of software in a
> system. Most would rather dump $20k for VxWorks and hit the ground
> running than pick up a free RTOS and spend have the life project life
> cycle comming up to speed before actually doing any work.
Agreed. We see this all the time. Many RTEMS users make high volume
products because they see the payoff in royalties.
> As far as doing *my* part, I've adopted RTEMS for use in my current
> AFRL project/contract (the GLINT project) and have sold the idea of
> RTEMS to a senior engineer in our company for potential use in new
> VME based projects.
YEAH!!! YEAH!!! Is there anything I/OAR can do to assist? Encourage?
> Another particular angle that might help inject RTEMS in the AFRL
> world is compatibility with Mercury systems OS. In the tracking world
> we make use of serious parallel processing power. Mercury Systems and
> VxWorks have compatible libraries to interoperate over the RaceWay bus
> system.
Not having seen this API, I can't say precisely the effort required
but I can speak from experience on other APIs that it is probably
less than a handful of development seats and run-times.
Has the API ever been proposed as an open standard? Or is it based upon
one?
OAR loves to do this type of work. :)
> Penatraing the Mecury/VxWorks marriage would be rather adventageous for
> the acceptence of RTEMS in this particular realm of the rtos world.
:)
> Robert Wasierski
> --- Angelo Fraietta <angelo at hunterlink.net.au> wrote:
> > Do you think emj or Jumptech would be interested in RTEMS as an
> > addition OS for
> > running on the DIMM-PC or PC/104? RTEMS is a free Real Time Operating
> > System,
> > which I happen to be using for my Ph.D. project. OARCorp provide both
> > free
> > support (which is fantastic) and paid support (which is exceptional).
> >
> > http://www.gnatrtems.com/RTEMS/rtems.html
> >
> > Paige Ross wrote:
> >
> > > Hi Angelo,
> > > Great news! Yes we have tech support here, you can reach
> > Donnie at
> > > donnie at emj.com or Ian at Ian at emj.com.
> > >
> > > I will also pass this information on to them!
> > > Best,
> > > Paige Ross
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Angelo Fraietta" <angelo at hunterlink.net.au>
> > > To: "Paige Ross" <pross at emj.com>
> > > Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2001 2:17 AM
> > > Subject: Re: 1JDMEVA
> > >
> > > > I have successfully run the DIMM-PC with the RTEMS operating
> > system.
> > > > I am, however, having trouble with the LCD display. Do you have a
> > tech
> > > support
> > > > person that I could communicate regarding this?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Paige Ross wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Hi Angelo,
> > > > > The 1JDMEVA is the starter kit for the DIMM PC. It does
> > include a
> > > > > Fujitsu 1.44 3.5" Floppy , DIMM PC Eval Board and DIMM PC
> > VGA/LCD
> > > Module.
> > > > > http://www.jumptecadastra.com/
> > > > > This is meant to be used a starter tool and after
> > development you
> > > would
> > > > > only need to order the DIMM PC's, and whatever other modules
> > (enet, VGA)
> > > > > that you would need. I would highly recommend this for you.
> > > > > Your RTEMS operating system is something that we are not
> > very
> > > familair
> > > > > with, but tech support here tells me that it will run on Linux,
> > which
> > > the
> > > > > DIMM PC does support. Does that make sense? I have an idea for
> > you...we
> > > > > have an embedded Linux that you can download for free on our
> > website.
> > > > > http://www.whitedwarflinux.org/
> > > > > However you will need a little more power with this download.
> > You will
> > > need
> > > > > the DIMM PC 486. The cost on this DIMM PC would be $354.00 and
> > that
> > > ships
> > > > > with 16 MB RAm and 16 MB of flash. This way you could download
> > the
> > > White
> > > > > dwarf Linux and then whatever RTEMS OS that you need! Let me
> > know if
> > > you
> > > > > would like to take this route, I have not booked your order
> > yet.
> > > > >
> > > > > Best,
> > > > > Paige Ross
> > > > >
> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > From: "Angelo Fraietta" <angelo at hunterlink.net.au>
> > > > > To: "Paige Ross" <pross at emj.com>
> > > > > Sent: Monday, August 27, 2001 7:22 PM
> > > > > Subject: Re: 1JDMEVA
> > > > >
> > > > > > I am developing a new type of MIDI controller for musical
> > performance
> > > as
> > > > > the
> > > > > > basis for my Ph.D. project, called the Smart Controller.
> > > > > > The Smart Controller is a portable hardware device that
> > allows
> > > performers
> > > > > to
> > > > > > create music using Programmable Logic Control. The device can
> > be
> > > > > programmed
> > > > > > remotely through the use of a patch editor or Workbench,
> > which is an
> > > > > independent
> > > > > > computer application that simulates and communicates with the
> > > hardware.
> > > > > The
> > > > > > Smart Controller responds to input control voltage and MIDI
> > messages,
> > > > > producing
> > > > > > output control voltage and MIDI messages (depending upon the
> > patch).
> > > The
> > > > > Smart
> > > > > > Controller is a stand alone device -- a powerful, reliable,
> > and
> > > compact
> > > > > > instrument -- capable of reducing the number of electronic
> > modules
> > > > > required,
> > > > > > particularly the requirement of a laptop computer, in a live
> > > performance.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I have been using the RTEMS operating system to develop
> > prototypes on
> > > a
> > > > > 386 PC
> > > > > > before committing to an embedded device. Your company was
> > recommended
> > > on
> > > > > the
> > > > > > RTEMS newsgroup.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Does the DIMM PC come with all the appropriate software to
> > download or
> > > > > Flash my
> > > > > > OS into it? What does the 1JDMEVA have that the DIMM PC
> > doesn't.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Paige Ross wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Hello Angelo,
> > > > > > > We actually can build this product for you, I will be
> > happy to
> > > add
> > > > > one
> > > > > > > on to your order! The cost is $301.00.
> > > > > > > Also, I need more info from you, I need a shipper acct.
> > number
> > > from
> > > > > you.
> > > > > > > We do not ship internationally without a shipper acct
> > number. We
> > > ship
> > > > > using
> > > > > > > Fed Ex, UPS, or DHL. Please let me know if you have any
> > questions.
> > > > > > > Thank you for the order! What is your application for the
> > DIMM PC??
> > > > > > > Best,
> > > > > > > Paige Ross
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > > From: "Angelo Fraietta" <angelo at hunterlink.net.au>
> > > > > > > To: <emjembedded at emj.com>
> > > > > > > Sent: Monday, August 27, 2001 12:07 AM
> > > > > > > Subject: 1JDMEVA
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > When do you believe you will have these in stock again?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > > Angelo Fraietta
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > PO Box 859
> > > > > > > > Hamilton NSW 2303
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Home Page
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > http://users.hunterlink.net.au/~maaaf/
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > There are those who seek knowledge for the sake of
> > knowledge -
> > > that is
> > > > > > > > CURIOSITY
> > > > > > > > There are those who seek knowledge to be known by others
> > - that is
> > > > > > > > VANITY
> > > > > > > > There are those who seek knowledge in order to serve -
> > that is
> > > LOVE
> > > > > > > > Bernard of Clairvaux (1090 - 1153)
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --
> > > > > > Angelo Fraietta
> > > > > >
> > > > > > PO Box 859
> > > > > > Hamilton NSW 2303
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Home Page
> > > > > >
> > > > > > http://users.hunterlink.net.au/~maaaf/
> > > > > >
> >
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