cheap RTEMS/PowerPC platform [was: Re: Open Desktop Workstation]
Raquel and Bill
bbrv at genesi-usa.com
Wed Aug 24 16:55:27 UTC 2005
Missed the Kuro box, but would that really be an appropriate target
for this OS (honest question)?
On Aug 24, 2005, at 11:52 AM, Raquel and Bill wrote:
> That is not an entirely accurate accounting. The ODW is a complete
> machine (in a case with PSU, graphics card, memory, hard drive,
> cables, etc.) with all the I/O you could want. The others are just
> The earlier comparison to the MacMini would be more appropriate.
> The difference is the ODW has three PCI and one AGP slot and plenty
> more expandability. You can upgrade the CPU card, graphics card,
> or memory on the ODW, for example.
> The ODW is also support multiple operating systems. We thought
> RTEMS could be one of them. We are even willing to provide FREE
> hardware to developers that are interested in supporting the port.
> We joined the list and made the initial post because we had an
> inquiry from a customer that wanted to have RTEMS running on the
> platform. Is there any interest?
> Hope that clears things up! :-)
> On Aug 24, 2005, at 11:42 AM, Karel Gardas wrote:
>> On Wed, 24 Aug 2005, Joel Sherrill <joel at OARcorp.com> wrote:
>>>>> Hmm i have no idea what the mentioned hardware cost, so i can't
>>>>> that question. But apple's mac mini is about 500USD which isn't
>>>>> expensive, when you want a general PowerPC.
>>>> The problem is that IIRC it does not even provide serial port
>>>> which is needed for serial console. Pegasos seems to provide one
>>>> BTW: Anobody here get RTEMS working on MOAB or CerfCube?
>>> The Avnet evaluation board for the Coldfire that had a BSP submitted
>>> recently is inexpensive. Do they have any PowerPC boards like that?
>>> The PegasusPPC mentioned CHRP. The EP1A and MVME2100 appear to be
>>> CHRP. Would one of the existing BSPs come close to working?
>> True, let's list here the market choices for the reference:
>> 1) Pegasos Open Desktop Workstation: $799 (Freescale 1GHz
>> G4/512MB RAM/80GB disc)
>> 2) Avnet AMCC PowerPC 440GX Eval. Kit: $749 (AMCC 440GX
>> 533MHz/256MB RAM/32MB FLASH)
>> 3) TAMS MOAB 3011 (board/chasis/doc + CD): $650 (AMCC 405GPr
>> 400MHz/64MB RAM/128MB FLASH)
>> 4) Avnet Freescale MPC885 Evaluation Kit: $499 (Freescale MPC885
>> 133MHz/64MB RAM/16MB FLASH)
>> 5) Intrinsyc CerfCube 405EP for Linux: $399 (IBM 405EP/32MB
>> RAM/32MB FLASH)
>> 6) TAMS MOAB 3011 (eval. board only): $399 (AMCC 405GPr
>> 400MHz/64MB RAM/128MB FLASH)
>> 7) Synology NAS DS-101g+ : $300 (Freescale MPC
>> 8241 266MHz /64MB RAM/16MB FLASH)
>> 8) Buffalo Kuro-box HG: somewhere between (7) and (9)
>> (Freescale MPC 8241 266MHz /128MB RAM/4MB FLASH)
>> 9) Buffalo Kuro-box: $160 (Freescale MPC
>> 8241 200MHz /64MB RAM/4MB FLASH)
>> where (2)-(6) seems to be "true" embedded solutions with proper
>> boot monitors (RedBoot, U-Boot, PPCBoot, etc.) and serial
>> consoles, (1) is more like general system ala PowerMac and (7)-(9)
>> are cheap NAS solutions sometimes hackable to contain serial
>> console etc. (like now popular Linksys NSLU2 for XScale platform).
>> As my target hobby price (RTEMS/Linux/real-time is just hobby of
>> mine) is around $200, I will probably end with one of NAS
>> solutions or an old second-hand PowerMac. Anyway, my current
>> strategy is wait and see, since I expect PowerPC prices to fall a
>> little bit after recent IBM's move to more "open" PowerPC licenses
>> and also after enter of new game consoles into the market (XBox/
>> PS3), not talking about usual price-fall of new PowerPC-based NAS
>> like DS-101g+.
>> BTW: RTEMS does not run on any of the choices above, although it
>> might be probably easily ported to some of them (PPC405 etc.)
>> Karel Gardas kgardas at objectsecurity.com
>> ObjectSecurity Ltd. http://www.objectsecurity.com
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