cheap RTEMS/PowerPC platform [was: Re: Open Desktop Workstation]

Bsderss snort_sam at yahoo.com
Thu Sep 1 00:51:34 UTC 2005



--- Karel Gardas <kgardas at objectsecurity.com> wrote:

> On Wed, 24 Aug 2005, Joel Sherrill
> <joel at OARcorp.com> wrote:
> 
> >>> Hmm i have no idea what the mentioned hardware
> cost, so i can't answer
> >>> that question. But apple's mac mini is about
> 500USD which isn't that
> >>> expensive, when you want a general PowerPC.
> >> 
> >> 
> >> The problem is that IIRC it does not even provide
> serial port which is 
> >> needed for serial console. Pegasos seems to
> provide one RS-232.
> >> 
> >> BTW: Anobody here get RTEMS working on MOAB or
> CerfCube?
> >> http://www.tamsinc.com/3011/index.htm
> >>
>
http://www.intrinsyc.com/products/mob_ref_sys/cerfcube_405_ep/index.asp
> >
> > The Avnet evaluation board for the Coldfire that
> had a BSP submitted
> > recently is inexpensive.  Do they have any PowerPC
> boards like that?
> >
> > The PegasusPPC mentioned CHRP.  The EP1A and
> MVME2100 appear to be
> > CHRP.  Would one of the existing BSPs come close
> to working?
> 
> True, let's list here the market choices for the
> reference:
> 
> 1) Pegasos Open Desktop Workstation:       $799 
> (Freescale 1GHz G4/512MB RAM/80GB disc)
> 2) Avnet AMCC PowerPC 440GX Eval. Kit:     $749 
> (AMCC 440GX 533MHz/256MB RAM/32MB FLASH)
> 3) TAMS MOAB 3011 (board/chasis/doc + CD): $650 
> (AMCC 405GPr 400MHz/64MB RAM/128MB FLASH)
> 4) Avnet Freescale MPC885 Evaluation Kit:  $499 
> (Freescale MPC885 133MHz/64MB RAM/16MB FLASH)
> 5) Intrinsyc CerfCube 405EP for Linux:     $399 
> (IBM 405EP/32MB RAM/32MB FLASH)
> 6) TAMS MOAB 3011 (eval. board only):      $399 
> (AMCC 405GPr 400MHz/64MB RAM/128MB FLASH)
> 7) Synology NAS DS-101g+ :                 $300 
> (Freescale MPC 8241 266MHz /64MB RAM/16MB FLASH)
> 8) Buffalo Kuro-box HG:              somewhere
> between (7) and (9) (Freescale MPC 8241 266MHz
> /128MB RAM/4MB FLASH)
> 9) Buffalo Kuro-box:                       $160 
> (Freescale MPC 8241 200MHz /64MB RAM/4MB FLASH)
> 
Hi, Are all these in AUD or USD? If in USD, it is not
cheap.

Sam
> where (2)-(6) seems to be "true" embedded solutions
> with proper boot 
> monitors (RedBoot, U-Boot, PPCBoot, etc.) and serial
> consoles, (1) is more 
> like general system ala PowerMac and (7)-(9) are
> cheap NAS solutions 
> sometimes hackable to contain serial console etc.
> (like now popular 
> Linksys NSLU2 for XScale platform).
> 
> As my target hobby price (RTEMS/Linux/real-time is
> just hobby of mine) is 
> around $200, I will probably end with one of NAS
> solutions or an old 
> second-hand PowerMac. Anyway, my current strategy is
> wait and see, since I 
> expect PowerPC prices to fall a little bit after
> recent IBM's move to more 
> "open" PowerPC licenses and also after enter of new
> game consoles into the 
> market (XBox/PS3), not talking about usual
> price-fall of new PowerPC-based 
> NAS like DS-101g+.
> 
> BTW: RTEMS does not run on any of the choices above,
> although it might be 
> probably easily ported to some of them (PPC405 etc.)
> 
> Cheers,
> Karel
> --
> Karel Gardas                 
> kgardas at objectsecurity.com
> ObjectSecurity Ltd.          
> http://www.objectsecurity.com
> 


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