network based console?
Gene Smith
gds at chartertn.net
Fri Sep 12 22:21:08 UTC 2008
In my application I can just use printf, no problem. But what happens if
you do call printk and there is no serial port enabled? I'm not sure on
that.
Again, all I am wanting is a remote terminal (made by I assume telneting
to rtems) that takes the stdout, in, and err from just my application
(like gtkterm does now). I don't need it to accept standard shell
commands like ls or whatever other commands the "rtems shell" can accept.
I thought maybe I can just enable the rtems telnetd and a pty and this
will occur if serial console is disabled. However, it sound like it is a
lot harder after reading Till's comments.
-gene
P/s: one comment below
Thomas Doerfler (nt) wrote:
> Hi,
>
> just to throw in my two cents: wouldn't it be possible to establish the
> pseudo-tty driver as "console" replacement? Iam sure this needs some
> tinkering, but might be worth a try.
Can you provide pointers on how to do this?
Would you still run telnet on the remote end?
>
> Thomas.
>
>
> Till Straumann schrieb:
>> If you want to redirect your system console to a TCP/IP socket
>> then you have to consider a few gotchas:
>>
>> - 'printk' will never be possible; printk normally uses a polling
>> driver for the serial port enabling it to be called everywhere
>> (w/o task context, from an ISR, before system is up etc.).
>> Unless you have a second networking
>> IF and implement a special polling driver + protocol stack there
>> you're not going to have printk.
>>
>> - you should be able to replace fds 0,1,2 with a TCP socket so
>> that all stdio goes over that connection.
>>
>> - HOWEVER: the RTEMS file-system per se is not thread-safe
>> and RTEMS sockets are not. Therefore, you'd need to somehow
>> add locking; so you'd probably have to write a small 'driver'
>> wrapping a mutex lock/unlock pair around read/write from/to
>> the socket.
>>
>> - NOTE: RTEMS/newlib's FILE buffers are global, unprotected
>> objects and sharing them among threads is not safe (unless
>> you add locking yourself).
>> BUT: the stdin/stdout/stderr streams/buffers are
>> exceptional: every thread has it's own set of 3 buffers (all
>> sharing the underlying file descriptors 0,1,2).
>>
>> HTH
>> -- Till
>>
>> Gene Smith wrote:
>>> Right now my stdin and stdout operations go in/out the serial port.
>>> However, my serial port *must* go away since it is multiplexed with a
>>> more essential function that replaces it. However, my ethernet tcp/ip is
>>> working well now. Is it possible to setup a remote terminal using tcp/ip
>>> that will act as stdin/stdout for my board running rtems? This would
>>> mainly be for debug or control purposes and probably not kept in the
>>> final version.
>>>
>>> In the past, I have used syslog to record debug messages on a remote
>>> system (output only) via UDP. I see mention of a telnetd for rtems that
>>> might allow me to connect to the rtems board but not sure that the
>>> remote telnet terminal functions the same as the remote serial terminal
>>> (ie, gtkterm, minicom, etc), i.e., printf's output to it and keystroke
>>> are input back to rtems.
>>>
>>> I expect this is all bound in with termios and the console driver and
>>> network driver but not sure how it all ties together or if what I want
>>> is possible. I will keep looking. But any advance information or
>>> comments would be appreciated.
>>>
>>> -gene
>>>
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