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Thomas Doerfler Thomas.Doerfler at embedded-brains.de
Mon Dec 5 18:32:56 UTC 2011


Am 05.12.2011 18:41, schrieb Ralf Corsepius:
> On 12/05/2011 04:23 PM, Joel Sherrill wrote:
>> On 12/03/2011 03:54 PM, Chris Johns wrote:
>>> As others have noted the discussion happened in public.
> There was no consensus.

After the first proposal, there where some complaints (also from my
side). The concept of the mailing lists was refined then and some
details concerning the usage were laid out. Then there was no further
traffic concerning the new mailing lists.

Maybe we need a formal decision process? I don't think it should be a
"all agree or nothing changes" process. Any idea how this is handled in
other OS projects?

> 
> 
>>> I see no reason
>>> for the SC being involved.
>> Agreed.
> Disagreed. What you did was to circumvent the decision process and a
> case of abuse of the powers you have been granted.

Again: which process? Where is the decision process for the RTEMS SC
defined?

> 
>>>> A step, I vehemently disagree withand a step I vehemently disagree with
>>>> how it was done.
>>> The whole process has taken place in public and I assumed anyone on the
>>> SC would be prepared to make any comments publicly. It is just a mailing
>>> list we are discussing.
>>>
>>> I started the process of a new list for a few reasons. The most
>>> important is the need to provide a mailing list for review of patches
>>> before committing. This became important because you requested, and it
>>> was agreed, that Gedare be given commit after review, something this
>>> project has never had. We have no defined procedure or protocol for
>>> commit access in this way. No one stepped up to resolve this situation
>>> so I started this process. Without this happening Gedare was given
>>> something he did not know how to use. We should being doing everything
>>> we can to welcome and encourage new committers to RTEMS.
>> This also follows the practice of other large free software projects.
>> Many projects have a developer, patches, and user help list.
> 
> Pardon? No sane project maps bugzilla and commits to a devel list,
> because bugreports and commit lists annoy developers.

Hm, at least now RTEMS doesn't do this either. bugzilla and version
control has separate lists.

Thomas.

> 
> Ralf
> 
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