Gsoc2012 project

[Yang Wei]

Ok, Joel thank you very much for your advice. I will select a suitable and interested project for me, and if possible I will follow the gedare to became a developer for Rtems.

在 2012-3-15，21:19，Joel Sherrill <joel.sherrill at oarcorp.com> 写道：

> On 03/14/2012 09:37 PM, Gedare Bloom wrote:
>> On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 10:49 AM, yangwei weiyang<wei.a.yang at gmail.com>  wrote:
>>> Hi all:
>>> 
>>>    Now the Gsoc2012 is getting more and more close. So in order to
>>> select most suitable project for me
>>> and rtems community from my interested projects, there are some
>>> questions needed to be answered：
>>> 1. In the open project page, Clang/LLVM support for RTEMS is one of my
>>> interested projects. And in the
>>> past days throught my investigation i have made Clang build the newlib
>>> and RTEMS source code (for i386 BSP)
>>> successfully. The build instruction and related information have be
>>> updated on the wiki. But only this small
>>> step is not enough to constitute a good proposal. So if you think this
>>> is really a good project for RTEMS, could
>>> you list what features you want with the Clang/LLVM support for RTEMS,
>>> which contains enough tasks for
>>> a summer of GSOC project.
>> Ideally clang/llvm should compile all (feasible) rtems targets. This
>> project would involve picking a target architecture and:
>> * identifying/removing/circumventing gcc-isms
>> * getting clang/llvm to compile rtems
>> * running test suites
>> * identifying bugs
>> * filing bug reports to appropriate people (clang/llvm, rtems, or others)
>> * documenting how to use clang with rtems
>> * developing procedures to repeat the task for other target architectures
>> 
>> There may be new code / code fixes required in rtems, libc (newlib),
>> or even clang in order to get rtems to compile properly for any given
>> target.
>> 
> GCC-isms includes not only code that is not C99 compatible
> but use of command line arguments that are specific to gcc.
> 
> clang/llvm supports a variety of architectures but the last
> I checked it did not support as many architectures as gcc
> nor as many CPU model variations as gcc does. For example,
> it supports SPARC but not V7 only V8 and above. All RTEMS
> SPARC BSPs are V7.  This one is probably fixable because it
> is only an instruction or two to avoid. But for others, you may
> find it is beyond a GSOC project to fix so it can only be documented.
>>> 2. RTEMS Toolkits --- ApplicationConfigurationGUI is another
>>> interested project for me. In the description there
>>> are some protential ways to approach this project. As it says the more
>>> better possibility is to write a GUI program
>>> in Python and read a XML parse which read the XML format file
>>> describing the RTEMS configuration parameters,
>>> and then generate a header file used for RTEMS sourece code. I also
>>> think this is relatively a good implement,
>>> because Python has rich UI libarys like PyQt which is also
>>> cross-platform and it support XML parse very well. About
>>> this project what advice do you have for me?
>> This project would focus on usability and capturing the richness of
>> configurations for RTEMS. The tool should be extensible, as the
>> configuration options tend to grow between releases of RTEMS. Note
>> that right now there is no "XML format file" that describes RTEMS
>> configurations---there is no standard format in fact. So part of this
>> project should define a standard format or at least store
>> configurations in a format that is maintainable and easy to translate
>> to an application header file.
>> 
>> I would also say that a CLI is equally important to a GUI, and that a
>> Configuration project should consider how to support command-line
>> usage.
>> 
> Just to be clear we are talking about the configuration options
> that an application uses to tune RTEMS for its use. These generally
> start with CONFIGURE_ and are processed by confdefs.h.
>>> 3. About the second project i found there was a student proposed a
>>> proposal in the past but he was not accepted.
>>> So i want to know whether the project about the third party package or
>>> not closely related to embeded development
>>> with RTEMS like development environment oiented has low priority to be accepted?
>>> 
>> I do not know nor would I say why a past student's project did not get
>> accepted. That said, the strength of the student/proposal tends to
>> weigh more heavily than the priority of the project. I encourage you
>> to choose a project that you feel comfortable with and have some
>> passion for, because that will lead to a stronger proposal and greater
>> chance for success.
> Having been org admin all of the years, I can tell you that we
> generally get 2-3 times more applications than we get funded
> slots.  Students are selected based on a lot of factors but here
> are some off the top of my head.
> 
> + likelihood to succeed (feasibility and student's ability)
> + need for project by RTEMS
> + mentor available
> + perceived community involvement
> 
> We want students to succeed producing something we will
> merge and they become part of the community long-term.
> 
> Gedare was my student two years ago and a mentor last year.
> Pick something that is interesting to you first and that you
> can succeed on.  I think that's the most important thing.
> We want you to have fun and want to work in the community
> long term.
> 
> I admit we have projects on our wish list that are not GSOC
> appropriate.  Some are too large and some are just an idea
> that doesn't have enough details to implement yet.  If you
> end up interested in one of those, you will get discouraged
> unless you can articulate the missing details. :)
> 
> 
>> 
>> -Gedare
>>> --
>>> Wei Yang
>>> Best Regards
>>> 
>>> wei.a.yang at gmail.com
>>> 
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