Tool Hosts and Announcements was Re: BSD vs POSIX psignal

Gedare Bloom gedare at
Fri May 20 16:22:49 UTC 2011

my .02: I got the yum updates, but then an old branch that I have been
working on broke. I faced the choice to rebase or to compile a
toolchain for that old branch. The work involved in rebasing is a lot,
especially on our CVS repo (*hint hint*), so I spun up a toolchain for
the outdated branch that I'm working on.

I was mildly surprised when the tool update broke my working branch,
yet thankfully I identified the issue quickly and did not spend much
time trying to debug. A brief announcement somewhere would be useful
for those of us who use (1) non-RPM systems, (2) closed-source
systems, or (3) RPM systems with outdated branches.

Joel's point about marketing is astute, but care should be taken not
to be too spammy either. A brief note to the users list when the yum
repo is updated with a new toolchain might be nice.

On Fri, May 20, 2011 at 9:54 AM, Joel Sherrill
<joel.sherrill at> wrote:
> On 05/20/2011 08:39 AM, Ralf Corsepius wrote:
>> On 05/20/2011 03:34 PM, Joel Sherrill wrote:
>>> On 05/20/2011 12:35 AM, Ralf Corsepius wrote:
>>>> On 05/20/2011 07:19 AM, Chris Johns wrote:
>>>>> On 20/05/11 1:13 PM, Ralf Corsepius wrote:
>>>>>> All others will be facing occasional build
>>>>>> errors, when things have changed incompatibly (Like in this case).
>>>>> And how do they know a change in the tools in needed ?
>>>> It's a rolling development branch ... breakages are to be expected.
>>> Obviously.
>>>>>>> That is how can I tell I need to perform an update ?
>>>>>> No idea about what you are asking.
>>>>> I do not use yum and so do not know anything has changed.
>>>> Pardon, if this sounds rude, this is your decision and thus is your
>>>> problem, you have to cope with. You might not like it, but it's
>>>> impossible to support folks who have chosen to use closed source OSes.
>>>> Plain and simple truth is: They are on their own.
>>> Debian is closed source? *BSD is closed source? Those
>>> folks are currently on their own.
>> Are you trying to be hostile?
> No.  I just think we should have support for .deb and
> ports.
> And I think our first concern is to gain RTEMS users.
> What host OS is not as critical as getting them
> to make that first step.
>> Chris is using MacOS - A clear case of an closed source OS.
> I realize that.
> --joel
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