Raspberry Pi test report

Alan Cudmore alan.cudmore at gmail.com
Mon Jan 20 17:03:00 UTC 2020


One clue for the Raspberry Pi 2 SMP problem:

The regular samples work (hello.exe, ticker.exe, unlimited.exe)
If I add #define CONFIGURE_MAXIMUM_PROCESSORS 4
to the init.c for hello, it does not work.



On Mon, Jan 20, 2020 at 11:52 AM Alan Cudmore <alan.cudmore at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Sorry for duplicate or incorrectly formatted messages. I need to setup an
> e-mail client to just send plain text. . See my replies below:
>
>
>
> *From: *Christian Mauderer <list at c-mauderer.de>
> *Sent: *Sunday, January 19, 2020 2:49 PM
> *To: *Alan Cudmore <alan.cudmore at gmail.com>; Christian Mauderer
> <christian.mauderer at embedded-brains.de>; gsnb.gn at gmail.com
> *Cc: *rtems-devel at rtems.org <devel at rtems.org>
> *Subject: *Re: Raspberry Pi test report
>
>
>
> On 19/01/2020 20:42, Alan Cudmore wrote:
>
> > I tried the latest RTEMS master on my collection of single core RPis and
>
> > they all worked. I used the kernel_address=0x200000 option in the
>
> > config.txt file.
>
> > The BSP did not identify the RPi Model B (26 pin GPIO header) or the RPi
>
> > Model A+ (1.1) since they use the older device ID register format. It's
>
> > probably a simple patch to identify these older models. Is it worth it,
>
> > given that they are not sold anymore?
>
>
>
> It's most likely only a wrong output. The memory size should be correct
>
> now. But nonetheless it's a bug and we currently mainly support the 1
>
> and 2. Therefore I would say it's worth a fix. Do you want to add one?
>
>
>
> I can work on a fix to identify the older models.
>
>
>
> >
>
> > I also tried some simple tests on the RPi 2 (v 1.1) and they worked.
>
> > However the SMP tests seem to crash on the RPi 2.
>
> > Does anyone know if the RPi 2 SMP works on the latest master? I know it
>
> > has worked in the past.
>
>
>
> I didn't test it. Do you have some details?
>
>
>
> I’m just starting to troubleshoot, but I build the raspberrypi2 BSP with
> –enable-smp.
>
> A few of the samples like ticker.exe and unlimited.exe work.
>
> But when I try smp01.exe, I don’t see any output past the model
> Identification that is printed by the BSP:
>
> RTEMS RPi 2B 1.1 (1GB) [00a21041]
>
>
>
> I commented out much of the code in smp01/init.c just to see if I could
> get the “test begin” banner, but did not see anything. (here is where the
> debugger would help!)
>
>
>
> Is the ticker.exe demo built differently than smp01.exe? These are both
> under the same build with the same configure options.
>
> I will try to continue my troubleshooting a little later.
>
>
>
>
>
> > I wouldn't mind dropping the Pi 2 once the Pi 3 is working.. The model
>
> > is being phased out anyway.
>
>
>
> Again: Still a lot of boards around. And quite possible that the older
>
> ones that are phased out of some Linux applications are used now for
>
> RTEMS stuff. So I'm not a fan of removing the support.
>
>
>
> That is fine with me. I read that there have been 30 million Raspberry Pis
> sold so far. I am trying to find a breakdown of that figure by model number.
>
>
>
> >
>
> > It looks like there is progress being made on the RPi 3. The mini uart
>
> > support may also work on the RPi Zero W, since it has the same
>
> > wireless/bluetooth model as the 3. I can try the Pi 3 out whenever it is
>
> > ready.
>
> > Thanks for all of the recent RPI updates!
>
>
>
> Please give a special thanks to Niteesh. He does most of the current
>
> raspberry work. And thank you for the repeated testing.
>
>
>
> Absolutely! Niteesh’s work to allow RTEMS to work on the Raspberry Pi 3 is
> very much appreciated!
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Alan
>
>
>
> Best regards
>
>
>
> Christian
>
>
>
> > Alan
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > On Wed, Jan 8, 2020 at 10:26 AM Alan Cudmore <alan.cudmore at gmail.com
>
> > <mailto:alan.cudmore at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> >
>
> >     The Debian Linux variant for the Raspberry Pi (Raspbian) is still 32
>
> >     bit for both the Pi 3 and 4, so I would think 32 bit ports would run
>
> >     on both.
>
> >     The Raspberry Pi 4 has a Quad Core A72, 1 to 4 Gigabytes of LPDDR4
>
> >     SDRAM, Gigabit ethernet, USB 3, Wi-fi and bluetooth. I have not
>
> >     looked into it enough to see what UARTs it uses.
>
> >
>
> >     On Wed, Jan 8, 2020 at 1:18 AM Christian Mauderer
>
> >     <christian.mauderer at embedded-brains.de
>
> >     <mailto:christian.mauderer at embedded-brains.de>> wrote:
>
> >
>
> >         On 08/01/2020 00:24, Joel Sherrill wrote:
>
> >         >
>
> >         >
>
> >         > On Tue, Jan 7, 2020 at 12:42 PM Christian Mauderer
>
> >         <list at c-mauderer.de <mailto:list at c-mauderer.de>
>
> >         > <mailto:list at c-mauderer.de <mailto:list at c-mauderer.de>>>
> wrote:
>
> >         >
>
> >         >     Hello Alan,
>
> >         >
>
> >         >     I pushed the patches mentioned further below. So the
>
> >         raspberry BSP
>
> >         >     should now work again for all raspberry 1 and 2 on the
>
> >         official master
>
> >         >     branch. Note that the
>
> >         >
>
> >         >         kernel_address=0x200000
>
> >         >
>
> >         >     is still necessary.
>
> >         >
>
> >         >
>
> >         > This is awesome work. What about the Pi 3 and and Pi 4?  I
>
> >         think Niteesh
>
> >         > has the Pi 3 working so that leaves the 4. Any idea?
>
> >         >
>
> >         > --joel
>
> >         >
>
> >
>
> >         As far as I followed his work Niteesh had some minimal version
>
> >         working
>
> >         with the mini UART and thought about trying the existing NS16550
>
> >         (after
>
> >         I suggested that one). But I haven't seen a patch yet. So
>
> >         currently even
>
> >         if some basic stuff runs there will be no console.
>
> >
>
> >         Beneath that: Pi 3 and Pi 4 are both 64Bit cores. I don't have
> any
>
> >         experience with aarch64. Therefore I'm not sure whether we can
>
> >         safely
>
> >         use them with 32Bit fallback. It seems to work to some extend but
>
> >         according to
>
> >
>
> >             https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ARM_architecture#AArch64
>
> >
>
> >             "ARMv8-A allows 32-bit applications to be executed in
>
> >              a 64-bit OS, and a 32-bit OS to be under the control
>
> >              of a 64-bit hypervisor."
>
> >
>
> >         So I'm not sure in which situations we will run into problems.
>
> >         Maybe on
>
> >         interrupts?
>
> >
>
> >         Best regards
>
> >
>
> >         Christian
>
> >
>
> >         >
>
> >         >     Best regards
>
> >         >
>
> >         >     Christian
>
> >         >
>
> >         >     On 06/01/2020 11:10, Christian Mauderer wrote:
>
> >         >     > Hello Alan,
>
> >         >     >
>
> >         >     > thanks for your very detailed tests.
>
> >         >     >
>
> >         >     > On 05/01/2020 23:42, Alan Cudmore wrote:
>
> >         >     >> I finally found the time to try the latest RTEMS head
> on my
>
> >         >     collection
>
> >         >     >> of Raspberry Pi models.
>
> >         >     >> The last time I tried to run RTEMS on a Pi, I had
>
> >         trouble with the
>
> >         >     >> current version of the Raspberry Pi Firmware, so I had
>
> >         to go back
>
> >         >     to a
>
> >         >     >> specific tag on the Rasberry Pi firmware repository to
>
> >         get RTEMS to
>
> >         >     >> work. This time, the head of the firmware repository
>
> >         seems to
>
> >         >     work (at
>
> >         >     >> least on the single core models)
>
> >         >     >>
>
> >         >     >> To keep things simple, I'm just going address the
>
> >         single core models
>
> >         >     >> here, I can follow up after I finish testing the
>
> >         Raspberry Pi 2.
>
> >         >     >>
>
> >         >     >> Test Setup:
>
> >         >     >> I used the git.rtems.org <http://git.rtems.org>
>
> >         <http://git.rtems.org>
>
> >         >     <http://git.rtems.org> rtems master from Jan 03
>
> >         >     >> 2020.
>
> >         >     >> I used the Raspberry Pi firmware from the same date.
>
> >         >     >> The firmware can be found here:
>
> >         >     >>
> https://github.com/raspberrypi/firmware/tree/master/boot
>
> >         >     >> To boot an RTEMS image, you can copy all files from the
>
> >         above "boot"
>
> >         >     >> directory on a DOS formatted SD/MicroSD card along with
>
> >         the RTEMS
>
> >         >     image
>
> >         >     >> (more about that in a minute).
>
> >         >     >> On the SD card, I deleted the "dtb" files, as well as
>
> >         the overlay
>
> >         >     >> directory. I dont think these are necessary to boot an
>
> >         RTEMS image.
>
> >         >     >>
>
> >         >     >> I built a new arm-rtems5 toolchain using the RSB tool
>
> >         (head from the
>
> >         >     >> same date) and built the "raspberrypi" BSP. After a
>
> >         quick test
>
> >         >     failed, I
>
> >         >     >> reviewed the latest mailing list posts, and ended up
>
> >         applying the
>
> >         >     linker
>
> >         >     >> script patch:
>
> >         >     >>
>
> >
> https://lists.rtems.org/pipermail/devel/2019-December/056551.html
>
> >         >     >
>
> >         >     > I don't think that we will apply that patch. It moves
>
> >         code in an area
>
> >         >     > that is protected against access to catch null pointer
>
> >         accesses later.
>
> >         >     > This increases the image size.
>
> >         >     >
>
> >         >     > The alternative is to add the line
>
> >         >     >
>
> >         >     >     kernel_address=0x200000
>
> >         >     >
>
> >         >     > to the config.txt of the raspberry SD image. Niteesh is
>
> >         in the process
>
> >         >     > of documenting this:
>
> >         >     >
>
> >         >     >
>
> >
> https://lists.rtems.org/pipermail/devel/2020-January/056796.html
>
> >         >     >
>
> >         >     >>
>
> >         >     >> After applying this patch and rebuilding, a few RTEMS
>
> >         samples
>
> >         >     seemed to
>
> >         >     >> work fine on the Raspberry Pi Zero Models 1.2 and 1.3
> (no
>
> >         >     wireless). I
>
> >         >     >> ran hello.exe, ticker.exe, and unlimited.exe
>
> >         >     >>
>
> >         >     >> The above images must be prepared using the following
>
> >         command:
>
> >         >     >> $ arm-rtems5-objcopy -Obinary ticker.exe kernel.img
>
> >         >     >> Then I copied kernel.img over the linux kernel on the
>
> >         SD card.
>
> >         >     >>
>
> >         >     >> For all of these tests, I found this serial to USB
>
> >         board to be very
>
> >         >     >> useful in my tests:
>
> >         >     >> https://www.adafruit.com/product/3589
>
> >         >     >> It can power the pi through the USB cable and has a
>
> >         power switch
>
> >         >     as well.
>
> >         >     >>
>
> >         >     >> After the Pi Zero models, I tried my remaining older
>
> >         single core
>
> >         >     models:
>
> >         >     >> 1. Raspberry Pi Model B ( Original single core model
>
> >         with 512MB
>
> >         >     of RAM
>
> >         >     >> and 26 pin GPIO header)
>
> >         >     >> 2. Raspberry Pi Model B+ (Updated Single core model
>
> >         with 512MB of RAM
>
> >         >     >> and 40 pin GPIO header)
>
> >         >     >> 3. Raspberry Pi Model A+ (Smaller form factor single
>
> >         core model with
>
> >         >     >> 256MB of RAM and 40 pin GPIO header)
>
> >         >     >>    (Note this model has been updated to now have 512MB
>
> >         of RAM)
>
> >         >     >>
>
> >         >     >> All three of the above models had the same exception
>
> >         that has been
>
> >         >     >> discussed on the mailing list:
>
> >         >     >>
>
> >
> https://lists.rtems.org/pipermail/devel/2019-December/056556.html
>
> >         >     >
>
> >         >     > I addressed that issue in the following patch set:
>
> >         >     >
>
> >         >     >
>
> >
> https://lists.rtems.org/pipermail/devel/2019-December/056623.html
>
> >         >     >
>
> >
> https://lists.rtems.org/pipermail/devel/2019-December/056622.html
>
> >         >     >
>
> >
> https://lists.rtems.org/pipermail/devel/2019-December/056624.html
>
> >         >     >
>
> >         >     > I'll push it in the next days together with patches
>
> >         regarding the
>
> >         >     > console from Niteesh. I just gave it some more time for
>
> >         review during
>
> >         >     > the public holidays.
>
> >         >     >
>
> >         >     > Basically it addresses the issues that you describe
> below.
>
> >         >     >
>
> >         >     >>
>
> >         >     >> All of these single core models are supposed to be
>
> >         compatible, and
>
> >         >     >> should run the same RTEMS image given the same memory
>
> >         configuration.
>
> >         >     >> Since the previous message was discussing the
>
> >         bspgetworkarea.c
>
> >         >     changes,
>
> >         >     >> I made a couple of changes:
>
> >         >     >> - Reverted to the generic bspgetworkarea.c file, and
>
> >         changed the
>
> >         >     memory
>
> >         >     >> size from 256MB to 128MB ( same as the 4.11 release ).
>
> >         >     >> With these changes, the same RTEMS images worked on all
>
> >         single
>
> >         >     core models:
>
> >         >     >> - RPi Zero 1.2 and 1.3
>
> >         >     >> - RPi Model B
>
> >         >     >> - RPi Model B+
>
> >         >     >> - RPi Model A+
>
> >         >     >>
>
> >         >     >> Findings:
>
> >         >     >> 1. The code that identifies the models in bspstart.c
>
> >         does not account
>
> >         >     >> for the older models:
>
> >         >     >>
>
> >         >
>
> >
> https://git.rtems.org/rtems/tree/bsps/arm/raspberrypi/start/bspstart.c
>
> >         >     >> The RPi Model B, B+, and A+ that I have all use the
> older
>
> >         >     revision which
>
> >         >     >> is not in the table in bspstart.c. I think we can fix
>
> >         this by
>
> >         >     adding the
>
> >         >     >> older revision codes in the table, but I think this
> code is
>
> >         >     mostly cosmetic.
>
> >         >     >>
>
> >         >
>
> >
> https://www.raspberrypi.org/documentation/hardware/raspberrypi/revision-codes/README.md
>
> >         >     >>
>
> >         >     >> 2. I think the code that determines the memory size in
>
> >         >     bspgetworkarea.c
>
> >         >     >> is not correct:
>
> >         >     >>
>
> >         >
>
> >
> https://git.rtems.org/rtems/tree/bsps/arm/raspberrypi/start/bspgetworkarea.c
>
> >         >     >>     a) The mask for the memory size field should
>
> >         probably be 0x7
>
> >         >     rather
>
> >         >     >> than 0xf. The 0xF picks up the "new revision" field of
>
> >         the word.
>
> >         >     >>
>
> >         >     >>
>
> >         >
>
> >
> https://git.rtems.org/rtems/tree/bsps/arm/raspberrypi/start/bspgetworkarea.c#n70
>
> >         >     >>     b) I'm not sure if the rpi_mem array is correct.
>
> >         The values
>
> >         >     are used
>
> >         >     >> in address size calculations, but the values seem to be
>
> >         in Kilobytes,
>
> >         >     >> not Megabytes. Maybe I'm not catching a shift that is
>
> >         done on
>
> >         >     these values.
>
> >         >     >>
>
> >         >     >>
>
> >         >
>
> >
> https://git.rtems.org/rtems/tree/bsps/arm/raspberrypi/start/bspgetworkarea.c#n73
>
> >         >     >>     c) I'm not sure that the numbers all add up. Line
>
> >         80 computes the
>
> >         >     >> ram_end value by adding the Work Area start to the
>
> >         total size of the
>
> >         >     >> RAM. I think this will overrun the end of the RAM.
>
> >         >     >>
>
> >         >     >>
>
> >         >
>
> >
> https://git.rtems.org/rtems/tree/bsps/arm/raspberrypi/start/bspgetworkarea.c#n80
>
> >         >     >>     d) I would like to look at the relationship between
>
> >         the ram_end
>
> >         >     >> calculation and the ram_size given in the autoconfigure
>
> >         setting (
>
> >         >     >> currently at 256MiB). Are the MMU settings done based
>
> >         on the hard
>
> >         >     coded
>
> >         >     >> linker script value that may conflict with the sizes
>
> >         set here?
>
> >         >     >>     e) the code may not work for the older models that
>
> >         do not
>
> >         >     have the
>
> >         >     >> updated revision fields.
>
> >         >     >>
>
> >         >     >> If the intent is to cover the different raspberry pi
>
> >         memory sizes
>
> >         >     >> automatically, then we can probably rework this code to
>
> >         work for
>
> >         >     all models.
>
> >         >     >> We may be able to use the following rationale to
>
> >         simplify the
>
> >         >     memory logic:
>
> >         >     >> 1. All of the current production single core raspberry
>
> >         Pi models have
>
> >         >     >> 512MB of RAM. Do we need to worry about out of
>
> >         production 256MiB
>
> >         >     models?
>
> >         >     >> I have an older A+ model with 256MiB, but I am unlikely
>
> >         to use it for
>
> >         >     >> anything serious. I would rather use a Raspberry Pi
>
> >         Zero instead.
>
> >         >     Given
>
> >         >     >> that, we could assume that the "raspberrypi" BSP has
>
> >         512 MiB of RAM.
>
> >         >     >> This would only require the calculation of how much
>
> >         memory is
>
> >         >     devoted to
>
> >         >     >> the GPU.
>
> >         >     >>
>
> >         >     >> 2. All of the Raspberry Pi 2 models have 1 Gigabyte of
>
> >         RAM, so the
>
> >         >     >> raspberrypi2 BSP can safely assume 1 gigabyte.
>
> >         >     >>
>
> >         >     >> We could also use the specific revision code register
>
> >         (old and
>
> >         >     new) to
>
> >         >     >> set the RAM size, since that should be accurate.
>
> >         >     >>
>
> >         >     >> Anyway, that is what I have so far on the single core
>
> >         models. I would
>
> >         >     >> like to take a look at the Pi 2 next. Note that the Pi
>
> >         2 is a
>
> >         >     Quad A7,
>
> >         >     >> that is considered "legacy" but it is still in
>
> >         production. The latest
>
> >         >     >> Raspberry Pi 2 has been switched to a Quad core A53, so
>
> >         it is now
>
> >         >     very
>
> >         >     >> similar to the Raspberry Pi 3 without the
>
> >         Wireless/Bluetooth
>
> >         >     module. I
>
> >         >     >> dont have a Raspberry Pi 2 with an A53.
>
> >         >     >>
>
> >         >     >> There are quite a few newer models as well, so it's
>
> >         probably worth a
>
> >         >     >> discussion of what we really want to support. My
> personal
>
> >         >     preferences:
>
> >         >     >> - Of the single core models, I would be happy with
>
> >         Raspberry Pi Zero
>
> >         >     >> (and possibly Zero W) support. These are are very
>
> >         inexpensive and
>
> >         >     >> available worldwide. It may be the least expensive
>
> >         non-simulator
>
> >         >     RTEMS
>
> >         >     >> target board available.
>
> >         >     >> - I would like one multi-core model as an inexpensive
>
> >         SMP target
>
> >         >     to work
>
> >         >     >> with and learn RTEMS SMP details. Again, my focus is on
>
> >         low cost and
>
> >         >     >> wide availability.
>
> >         >     >
>
> >         >     > In the ideal case: All models.
>
> >         >     > In the real case: It's unfunded. Therefore we take the
>
> >         ones that
>
> >         >     someone
>
> >         >     > is ready to add and maintain during free time.
>
> >         >     >
>
> >         >     > Beneath that I think it's more a question which models
>
> >         should be in
>
> >         >     > which BSP variant.
>
> >         >     >
>
> >         >     > The `raspberry` variant uses the following CPU_CFLAGS:
>
> >         >     >
>
> >         >     >     CPU_CFLAGS = -mcpu=arm1176jzf-s
>
> >         >     >
>
> >         >     > The `raspberry2` variant uses the following CPU_CFLAGS:
>
> >         >     >
>
> >         >     >     CPU_CFLAGS = -march=armv7-a -mthumb -mfpu=neon
>
> >         -mfloat-abi=hard
>
> >         >     > -mtune=cortex-a7
>
> >         >     >
>
> >         >     > Maybe we will need a variant in the future for an
>
> >         aarch64 support when
>
> >         >     > the core is supported in RTEMS somewhen. Currently I
>
> >         hope that we can
>
> >         >     > just fall back to 32 Bit mode for the newer models.
>
> >         >     >
>
> >         >     > So the variants will end up with only a different core.
>
> >         It should be
>
> >         >     > possible to handle other differences by parsing the FDT.
>
> >         Niteesh
>
> >         >     already
>
> >         >     > started that with the console.
>
> >         >     >
>
> >         >     >>
>
> >         >     >> Thanks for you attention, and happy new year!
>
> >         >     >
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