RFC: Move Away from Freenode

[Christian MAUDERER]

Hello Joel,

Am 27.05.21 um 22:20 schrieb Joel Sherrill:
> Hi
> 
> Community input is needed and appreciated!
> 
> The #rtems IRC server (freenode.net <http://freenode.net/>) has 
> undergone some turmoil and we need to discuss what to do. This email 
> provides some hopefully unbiased background on the Freenode situation, 
> the options I identified, and my personal recommendation.
> 
> If you follow the nerdy type of news, you may be aware of some serious 
> turmoil. I won't even try to rehash all the news but the basic outline 
> is that the owner of the domain name has pushed some uncool things, 
> forcing some elected leaders out, most/all the volunteers have left, 
> etc. There is some concern that any information on freenode will be 
> commercialized. This isn't much except for registered users who have a 
> nickname and password. That much should all be covered here with lots of 
> links.
> 
> https://www.theregister.com/2021/05/19/freenode_staff_resigns/ 
> <https://www.theregister.com/2021/05/19/freenode_staff_resigns/>
> 
> This is a starting point to read things from the volunteer viewpoint 
> that was posted to a GCC mailing list:
> 
> https://gist.github.com/joepie91/df80d8d36cd9d1bde46ba018af497409 
> <https://gist.github.com/joepie91/df80d8d36cd9d1bde46ba018af497409>
> 
> At this point, open source projects are bailing on Freenode for 
> libera.chat which was founded and setup by Freenode volunteers. I saw 
> over 400 projects have moved to the libera.chat. Showing the tone of 
> what's happening at Freenode, if libera.chat was mentioned in a channel, 
> the admins for that channel had their permissions removed and new admins 
> were assigned. This has only increased the rate of the exodus.
> 
> https://www.vice.com/en/article/pkbgvg/major-internet-projects-are-leaving-freenode-after-korean-prince-takeover 
> <https://www.vice.com/en/article/pkbgvg/major-internet-projects-are-leaving-freenode-after-korean-prince-takeover>
> 
> Our Discord setup seems to be doing well and is more active than I ever 
> saw on IRC. The question to the community is what should we do? Options are:
> 
> (1) Drop Freenode and IRC entirely. Focus on Discord
> (2) Drop Freenode. Add libre.chat (or another). Still keep Discord
> (3) Drop Freenode. Drop Discord. Focus on IRC on libre.chat (or another).
> 
> I'm leaning to (1) but whatever we do, the git commit -> IRC bot is 
> down/broken and will have to be addressed. If we commit completely to 
> Discord, we need bot(s) there and git commits need to go to Discord.
> 

I still think it's a bit odd to say "Drop Freenode" because Freenode 
seems to go into a more commercial direction but at the same time say 
that the Discord (which seems to be commercial through and through) is a 
good alternative.

In other words: As long as we don't mind using Discord, I would just 
keep the Freenode IRC just like it is.

> Even if we go with (1), it may make sense to claim #rtems on the two IRC 
> servers that open source projects are moving to. Just in case something 
> else happens, we will have those channels reserved and some admins lined 
> up. But we can leave them unused.

Note that some users might find these channels and try to get support there.

> 
> If anyone knows or wants to now about Discord bots, I am sure help would 
> be appreciated.

Seems that Discord supports web hooks:

https://discord.com/developers/docs/resources/webhook#execute-webhook

So it's more or less generating json-data.

Best regards

Christian

> 
> What does everyone thing should happen?
> 
> --joel
> 
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