RFC: Move Away from Freenode

[Matthew J Fletcher]

Hi,

Personally i've never used the IRC or Discord channels, I find the mailing
list much easier to use and search.

p.s I of course do use Discord for my Amiga retro hobby projects, so i am
aware of its limitations, particularly the signal to noise ratio.


On Fri, 28 May 2021 at 07:57, Christian MAUDERER <
christian.mauderer at embedded-brains.de> wrote:

> Hello Joel,
>
> Am 27.05.21 um 22:20 schrieb Joel Sherrill:
> > Hi
> >
> > Community input is needed and appreciated!
> >
> > The #rtems IRC server (freenode.net <http://freenode.net/>) has
> > undergone some turmoil and we need to discuss what to do. This email
> > provides some hopefully unbiased background on the Freenode situation,
> > the options I identified, and my personal recommendation.
> >
> > If you follow the nerdy type of news, you may be aware of some serious
> > turmoil. I won't even try to rehash all the news but the basic outline
> > is that the owner of the domain name has pushed some uncool things,
> > forcing some elected leaders out, most/all the volunteers have left,
> > etc. There is some concern that any information on freenode will be
> > commercialized. This isn't much except for registered users who have a
> > nickname and password. That much should all be covered here with lots of
> > links.
> >
> > https://www.theregister.com/2021/05/19/freenode_staff_resigns/
> > <https://www.theregister.com/2021/05/19/freenode_staff_resigns/>
> >
> > This is a starting point to read things from the volunteer viewpoint
> > that was posted to a GCC mailing list:
> >
> > https://gist.github.com/joepie91/df80d8d36cd9d1bde46ba018af497409
> > <https://gist.github.com/joepie91/df80d8d36cd9d1bde46ba018af497409>
> >
> > At this point, open source projects are bailing on Freenode for
> > libera.chat which was founded and setup by Freenode volunteers. I saw
> > over 400 projects have moved to the libera.chat. Showing the tone of
> > what's happening at Freenode, if libera.chat was mentioned in a channel,
> > the admins for that channel had their permissions removed and new admins
> > were assigned. This has only increased the rate of the exodus.
> >
> >
> https://www.vice.com/en/article/pkbgvg/major-internet-projects-are-leaving-freenode-after-korean-prince-takeover
> > <
> https://www.vice.com/en/article/pkbgvg/major-internet-projects-are-leaving-freenode-after-korean-prince-takeover
> >
> >
> > Our Discord setup seems to be doing well and is more active than I ever
> > saw on IRC. The question to the community is what should we do? Options
> are:
> >
> > (1) Drop Freenode and IRC entirely. Focus on Discord
> > (2) Drop Freenode. Add libre.chat (or another). Still keep Discord
> > (3) Drop Freenode. Drop Discord. Focus on IRC on libre.chat (or another).
> >
> > I'm leaning to (1) but whatever we do, the git commit -> IRC bot is
> > down/broken and will have to be addressed. If we commit completely to
> > Discord, we need bot(s) there and git commits need to go to Discord.
> >
>
> I still think it's a bit odd to say "Drop Freenode" because Freenode
> seems to go into a more commercial direction but at the same time say
> that the Discord (which seems to be commercial through and through) is a
> good alternative.
>
> In other words: As long as we don't mind using Discord, I would just
> keep the Freenode IRC just like it is.
>
> > Even if we go with (1), it may make sense to claim #rtems on the two IRC
> > servers that open source projects are moving to. Just in case something
> > else happens, we will have those channels reserved and some admins lined
> > up. But we can leave them unused.
>
> Note that some users might find these channels and try to get support
> there.
>
> >
> > If anyone knows or wants to now about Discord bots, I am sure help would
> > be appreciated.
>
> Seems that Discord supports web hooks:
>
> https://discord.com/developers/docs/resources/webhook#execute-webhook
>
> So it's more or less generating json-data.
>
> Best regards
>
> Christian
>
> >
> > What does everyone thing should happen?
> >
> > --joel
> >
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Matthew J Fletcher
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